So, let’s just jump on in.
I’m going to ask you the most important question right up front.

First of all, seen all of season 2.
It’s [ __ ] incredible.
I don’t know what else to say.

But now I’ll ask the most—
I’ll say the most important question.

How did you decide how much facial hair Cassian would have in each year gap?
That’s— these are the hard-hitting questions, man.
I hope you’re ready.

Yes. Yes. Yes.
I mean, we made a plan— and then the plan was ruined—
and then we were— Yes, we made a plan.

But uh, it was— it was a weird schedule, you know,
because we didn’t shoot in order.

And sometimes blocks would kind of like happen at the same time
or kind of like, um, had to interact.

So uh, I spent a few days suffering
because I made the wrong choice, you know—
like, [ __ ] now I need to have my facial hair.

And they would be like, very, very, very cool guys—
you know, very cool technique—
which is, you put glue,
you put real hair,
then you color it,
and you act with someone else’s hair in your face, basically.

So I have to thank that person, you know—
it’s part of my performance, I guess.

I didn’t think I was getting this answer.
Like, I really— this is— this was not what I expected.

Wow.
I mean, you asked me, and I’m honest.

Yeah. No, no. I’m— I’m super.

Okay, so now, now let me say that Alan might know what I’m about to bring up,
which is like— season one’s a masterpiece.
Season two’s a masterpiece.
This is like incredible storytelling.
Masterpiece.

Like, no, but it— it’s so incredible.

At any point recently, have either of you thought about retiring
because it’s never gonna get better?
Like, this might be the best thing you do.

And I’m— I’m joking around,
but like, you know,
we had to bring Alan out of retirement.

Yeah. No. Yeah.
I’m actually using this as my launch into retirement.
This is— I’m taking it off of you.
This is— this is the time.
I’ve done it, man.

I can take it easy now.

You’re done with droids or you’re done with all of it, man?

I’m— yeah, I’m done with all of it.
I’ve done as many robots as I can do.
But K2 is the best.

But I— yeah, I think it’s a good time to go out.

I uh, I’m just going to, I guess, become a pain in the ass
because I’m going to be looking for the same conditions
and I might end up not working.
You’re right.

But it’ll be worth it.
It’s been 10 years also.
There’s other stuff for me to do.
Like, I like cooking.

Yeah. Right. Uh-huh.
I’m still waiting for my paella.
It’s true. Still waiting for my paella since 10 years ago, I think.

Yes. He kept promising me paella,
and we would plan it.
We would actually plan it, be like—
this Saturday.

And then as Saturday approached—
looking forward to this Saturday—
“Oh, I can’t actually, this Saturday.”

Then— then we had a strike.
There’s someone in town.
The strike— and then, then the strike happened.
So there— couldn’t do it.

No.
But jokes aside,
it’s a beautiful reminder of what this whole thing is about.

And it’s about a point of view—
being honest and consistent with what you want to do.

And uh, I think one thing that makes this show different
from what’s happening in this long-format TV that we’re doing
is that we had an ending.

And that— that is different.
You know, we were not working hoping to get another, and another, and another season—
and “what else can happen” and “who else can join”—
no.

The ending was there.
And we were all aiming for that.
And that brings some rigor,
and kind of like— makes everything fall into place, you know.

I think I— Tony Gilroy—
yeah.
If you have those two things,
you might get a good show.

So one of the things about season 2 was—
I wasn’t sure how it was all going to go,
and where the characters would end up,
and what would ultimately happen for both of you.

When Tony told you, or you read all the scripts,
what was like your takeaway?
Because it just seemed— everything seemed to land.

Like for me— it just— it was just perfect, you know?
And I’m just curious what you guys took away as you were reading the storylines.

I was— when I read season two—
I just remember that that was exactly what he pitched me at the beginning.

He was consistent with that.
And uh, it was just richer, obviously,
because of all the new storylines
and the stuff we found on the way, obviously.

But like— the core of the thing was the exact same, you know.

And uh—
which, in this long format,
is something you don’t see often.
People start pitching things
and then they go out to find out what they can do, you know.

But um— but this was consistent.
And I was— I was also impressed on how he managed to deliver for each character.

You know— everyone has its closure.
Which is really cool.
And I love the way this relation starts.

Yeah. Yeah. We’re going to see it.
K2SO.

I’m looking forward to people seeing K2SO before he becomes K2SO.

Also see him born— but also who he was before he was born.
He’s before he’s born again.
That’s true. That’s— that’s going to be for people.

Yeah. Before he finds God— or Diego—
and finds the Rebellion.

Yeah.

Listen, I got to stop.
I’m just going to say— seriously—
for both of you— congrats on exceptional work.

And uh, thank you for coming in our studio.
I’m so glad.
What a cool studio you got.