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Exclusive: The Curse of Oak Island EP Joe Lassard talks season 9 and the reality of treasure. Season 9 of History’s Curse of Oak Island is back and bigger than ever, with Gary Drayton formulating specific dances for precious metals and the Laginas and Craig Tester bringing in even more experts as the testing ramps up and becomes more refined and targeted.

This season, the treasure is already at the forefront of everyone’s mind as the latest scientists analyze the newest money pit cores from drilling and find silver and gold. And yes, Gary Drayton will dance.

Executive producer Joe Lassard has the best job. He gets to hang with his erstwhile treasure hunters turned archaeological enthusiasts up in the swamp as they keep peeling back layers of evidence of human visitations and influence, one older than the next.

Where will all this Curse of Oak Island fun and games actually come to an end? According to Lassard, not until the treasure is found. In this season’s premiere, Rick Lagina said, “Every little piece of data seems to be aligning.” So, will we all be bobby dazzled, or is this just reality TV hype? So far, the empirical data suggests the former.

Last season, the seismic testing pointed to evidence of a sunken ship buried in the triangle-shaped swamp. And with the cooperation of Tom Nolan, the son of the late Fred Nolan, Team Lagina has even more fire in their bellies to keep digging up the cold Canadian muck.

Today, monsters and critics spoke to Lassard at length and got the details—spoiler-free, of course—to geek you up for season 9 on History.

Lassard’s answer to the second question is always yes. The first question is: what sets this season aside from the rest? He believes that every season always leaves something suggesting that any of the theories about what happened on Oak Island could be true.

He adds that what sets this season apart is that, finally, science empirically says there is treasure on Oak Island, and these guys are equipped more than ever to find it.

As a producer, Joe Lassard’s job is to have his crew in place and record what happens. One of the elements that Kevin Burns, his late boss and great friend and mentor, always knew about this show was that it was always going to be a great story to follow, because he believed that treasure or no treasure, Marty, Rick, Craig, and the team’s story was going to be a fascinating odyssey. And he was absolutely correct.

As a producer, Lassard doesn’t so much insert his personal creative take on how to navigate the story; rather, it’s what these guys reveal that drives the narrative. The Nova Scotia government has taken more interest, and the audience will see what that entails as the season unfolds. But really, it’s just a significant validation: these guys have proven the Oak Island mystery is as serious and as real as anyone ever imagined or hoped.

Joe Lassard compares Kevin Burns to Prometheus, the titan who gave fire to man, saying Kevin was a catalyst for storytelling—he knew how to light the fuse, make it explode, and create a hit. Finding the story balance through Rick and Marty Lagina’s point of view was Kevin’s perfect brainchild.

They had done a short segment on Oak Island in the first 2-hour special with the season of Ancient Aliens, when they first learned of the Money Pit. Kevin was fascinated by the story and the possibility that something could be happening on the island. At the time, the Laginas were just about to renew the treasure trove license, having been dormant for a while, and were working on getting legal permissions to start searching again. Kevin realized they were out there, and Lassard accompanied him to Michigan to meet Rick, Marty, and Craig Tester, where it slowly unfolded from there.

The Laginas did not pitch themselves as a television show. Kevin Burns had to convince them to be part of one, and it was ultimately for everyone’s benefit. Initially, Marty and Craig had no interest in being on television, and Rick did not want to be in front of the camera. But Kevin persuaded them that their point of view would be important to viewers, reminding them of their childhood dreams of being part of the Oak Island story. This inspired Marty, Rick, and Craig to join the series.

As producers, Lassard and his team do research and make suggestions where they can, especially in terms of technology or expertise. But it’s Rick, Marty, Craig, and the team who drive the exploration.

Gary Drayton came into the fold early in season 2. Rick had the idea to run a metal detector over the swamp, and the company providing it sent Gary to operate and advise on its use. Marty and Gary connected instantly, and by season 4, Marty wanted Gary on the team to scour the island with his detector and uncover clues.

At this stage, a discovery was made in what was supposedly a natural swamp. It appeared to be a constructed area, lending credence to Fred Nolan’s theory from the late 1960s that the swamp was man-made. As the season unfolds, the term “stone road” will evolve as they analyze it empirically and archaeologically.

Terry Dvau, a historian and president of the New England Antiquities Research Association, works closely with archaeologists and has studied the Portuguese influence in Nova Scotia extensively.